tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1362584331118859609.post6839546504968379422..comments2023-10-13T00:20:51.346-07:00Comments on Noise Shaft: Anathema - Weather Systems reviewGyZhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00377347348312331089noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1362584331118859609.post-17964143247299401472012-04-18T15:54:01.280-07:002012-04-18T15:54:01.280-07:00Even dislike is a strong word. I like it for being...Even dislike is a strong word. I like it for being so uncompromisingly deceitful. I suppose we can agree that this disc shows very little if any "true deviation" from the previous Anathema LP. It is made in the exact same spirit, in the exact same musical rhetorics, that which I think already has been explored by the group, and I feel the band now is exploiting it knowing it steadily serves out a fanbase. That is why I claim it is a disk of stagnation and deceit. I'll admit stagnation is not necessarily always a harmful state per se, as Yngwie Malmsteen, who I think is top 10 material guitarist, makes the same music since 1863 or so. <br /><br />Nice to see you are not being so rabid, yet saying that my accusations do not have any ground devolves this whole debate to its very starting point. I understand you know Cynic, but this Portal Tapes stuff if pretty unorthodox compared to their previous out. Definitely give it a chance if you did not yet, because, here is the thing : I'm 101% sure I would have been kinder to this Anathema release had I've not heard Cynic's Portal Tapes exactly before it.GyZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00377347348312331089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1362584331118859609.post-76065074605774054192012-04-18T15:30:48.137-07:002012-04-18T15:30:48.137-07:00I know Cynic and they are great musicicians. Their...I know Cynic and they are great musicicians. Their music doesn't do anything for me though. Just like Aghora, another Sein Reinert band. Great skills, but there's no true emotion in it if you ask me.<br /><br />And like I said, I have no problem with you disliking this record. The accusations you make don't have any ground though.<br /><br />Sleepless is one of the few none-doom songs on Serenades so I suggest you listen to it before you say it is better than the new one, lol. <br /><br />On a sidenote: AC/DC stagnated after their first release. I still like their later albums though (well at least those with Bon Scott).Judgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09161668678594417817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1362584331118859609.post-20785610344594720972012-04-18T12:03:05.302-07:002012-04-18T12:03:05.302-07:00Sorry, "stagnation" indeed should have b...Sorry, "stagnation" indeed should have been enough. Thank you for your input. And, for checking out the Cynic album, too.GyZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00377347348312331089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1362584331118859609.post-46742841062503622322012-04-18T11:48:33.383-07:002012-04-18T11:48:33.383-07:00"I think you should do yourself the courtesy ..."I think you should do yourself the courtesy of listening to the Cynic LP I recommended which I still consider a serious variant on THIS particular niche of music. Then compare the two and see that the new Anathema is stagnation-bullshit in the projection of said release."<br /><br />Well I've listened to the Poratal Tapes LP from Cynic but it hasn't touched me like the music from Anathema (you can call me crazy or anything you want but that's my opinion). I wouldn't call Portal Tapes stagnation-bullshit like you did it with "Weather Systems", sorry but this kind of level is very low to me and I don't want to discuss in that kind of way any longer....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1362584331118859609.post-21668793487070717572012-04-18T09:28:21.808-07:002012-04-18T09:28:21.808-07:00Anathema was a doom band as far as I know. I don&#...Anathema was a doom band as far as I know. I don't yet know any other songs than Sleepless from them from that era. And yes, I consider one bar of said song more significant than this entire deceitful disc. You don't agree? You really are breaking my heart you know. <br /><br />Yet, you don't need to have your period regarding the matter on these pages as far as my musical tastes are concerned, - or yours, for that matter - because doing so probably would yield little consensus interest. Here is why : I don't really have a musical taste, because musical taste bores me immensely and I consider it something that limits and harms the awareness. Just look at you, how hooked and deluded you are about the greatness of this release. You can't seem to accept that someone has an entirely different impression of it than you, because it serves our your cultivated anticipations sooooooo efficiently, eh? <br /><br />I still claim that even the music ITSELF - without the vocals - on this release is constructed in a dishonest, uninspired, non-thrilling and routine-way. Cheap-ass mechanics. Lion King music. Like : "you see, we need to press these buttons in this particular sequence and they will look at each other and smile, Edgar!" The same over-tolled musical ideas and mechanics repeated throughout the entire LP. The whiny prolonged vocals are hideous in their anatomy and agenda, yes, but they are just one premiere element of other hideous galore of entirely different, horrifying aspects. I already wrote about those, and all I have written regarding the matter I still stand by.<br /><br />If you still claim that the music on this delivery has potential to express anything more than their song <br /><br />everythiiiiiiing is energyyyyyyyy I chose looooooove tralalaaaaaaa<br /><br />I'm waiting for your example-song. Name your big favorites from the album if you want. I don't hate the album, I just find it dishonest and audience-targedet to the core. There is a need for audience-targeted and dishonest to the core albums, and this is a perfect representative of those in my book. <br /><br />Since you are so "emencely" offended by this review, I think you should do yourself the courtesy of listening to the Cynic LP I recommended which I still consider a serious variant on THIS particular niche of music. Then compare the two and see that the new Anathema is stagnation-bullshit in the projection of said release.<br /><br />Or feel free to love this android album all the more, if that is even possible.GyZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00377347348312331089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1362584331118859609.post-39771499236781806732012-04-18T08:32:01.500-07:002012-04-18T08:32:01.500-07:00Haha, you think Sleepless is a more honest song th...Haha, you think Sleepless is a more honest song than for instance Untouchable??? Surely, you can't be serious?<br /><br />I also don't get that you seem to like WHBWH but you hate this one so much? They aren't that different. Not in musical direction nor in the passion with wich they were created.<br /><br />And what's the thing with the loooooong notes in their vocal delivery you're on about? They've ALWAYS done that! Hardly the time to start whining about it now.<br /><br />I have no problem with you hating the album. In fact, I can understand quite well why a lot of people wouldn't like this music. I have to protest to your accusations that their music is dishonest and only created to cash in though. Because that is complete and utter bullshit! What you say is no more than a bunch of spiteful lies! And I wonder why you come up with something like that.Judgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09161668678594417817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1362584331118859609.post-37099247616136026472012-04-17T13:20:43.572-07:002012-04-17T13:20:43.572-07:00Hehehe!
I really liked this review!
Although I re...Hehehe!<br />I really liked this review!<br /><br />Although I really like the album I was having a similar conversation with my mate (another massive Anathema fan of 20 years or so) that I feeeeeeeel, that they are fiiiiiinnnnndiiiiinng a niche of loooooooosing themselves in a sea of long vowels and inspirational lyrics and major keys (in the sunshiiiiiiiine)<br /><br />I can't complain that it makes me feel good, but the jaded and cynical part of me feels similar to how I feel every time I hear a Slayer album.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11557298885569893900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1362584331118859609.post-85760664439848362182012-04-17T12:46:42.877-07:002012-04-17T12:46:42.877-07:00"professionell?"
Tell me about it.
I d..."professionell?"<br /><br />Tell me about it.<br /><br />I don't diss Anathema at all. I simply think their recent music creation ethos is dishonest to the core. The first ever song I have heard from them - "Sleepless" is very kind to me, and I found their 2010 album adorable, too. <br /><br />I can express my sentiments without swearwords, but don't always choose to. <br /><br />fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuck<br /><br />God save all from "professionelism".GyZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00377347348312331089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1362584331118859609.post-14298308083637896042012-04-17T12:40:58.902-07:002012-04-17T12:40:58.902-07:00@GyZ
Your diss against Anathema is really amazing....@GyZ<br />Your diss against Anathema is really amazing. I don't know if you want to be respected as a professionell writer, I wonder if you will get that kind of respect with this "review". Normally I don't care about negative reviews at all because mostly the writers can establish their opinion in a professionell way without using swearwords. It seems that you are not able to do that so I have absolutely no respect for you as a writer and especially for this "review"....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1362584331118859609.post-41133017485192947092012-04-17T05:33:45.577-07:002012-04-17T05:33:45.577-07:00@alternative4783 : stopped reading your comment at...@alternative4783 : stopped reading your comment at the expression "spiritual consciousness" - hilariously enough, you are sPoT on - sToP on?? in your cluelessness. This release, in my mind, indeed seeks to serve out the shallow and deceitful heart and the expectation and cravings of it, as trevorclever wrote. I would stand by this impression as long as I'd thought it is legitimate even if I'd be totally alone with it, - and would be happy to get rid of it if Anathema were to play serious music once again - but nice to see that at least ONE person understood where I'm coming from with this review. I still claim that the disc is a routinely engineered/assembled commercial Lion King Soft Rock toy-product designed to comfort a needy-, laughable ego with shit that smells like roses.<br /><br />If you are serious about your spiritual and exigent music, once again, listen to Cynic's Portal Tapes. I can take THAT music serious, because it gives the listener the same courtesy. <br /><br />The latest Anathema is demonic android shit Philip K. Dick and Meshuggah warns you about, and has nothing to do with spiritual development and consciousness evolution, it is about receiving money for making you feel good about your clueless spiritual misery. This is the latent denial of genuine and beneficial efforts that seek to better a consciousness and its surroundings, and it is inviting you to cultivate a feelgood delusion-system in yourself with which you can be "happy for yourself" instead. <br /><br />If this is your Eminent Album of the Year, you can't say I did not try to save you, C3PO.GyZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00377347348312331089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1362584331118859609.post-52874273187547037662012-04-17T03:26:16.331-07:002012-04-17T03:26:16.331-07:00Well, I'm not a fan of the spiritual teachings...Well, I'm not a fan of the spiritual teachings they try to get across on their last two albums. But I do like both of them and consider them the best things they have done so far. <br /><br />If you think these guys aren't making music from their heart, than you couldn't be more wrong! This is more connected to who they are than what they did in the olden days.<br /><br />I hope they feel that they said enough about their new found spirituality though. So hopefully the lyrics will focus on something else on future records. But musically, I absolutly love where they are going.Judgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09161668678594417817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1362584331118859609.post-24086866735201582232012-04-16T23:35:03.272-07:002012-04-16T23:35:03.272-07:00deceitful? nonsense?
i guess at the end of the day...deceitful? nonsense?<br />i guess at the end of the day it is the meaning you derive...you either loathe the spiritual deceit their feeding you... or you dissolve yourself in the vast expanse of spiritual consciousness,a sort of an awakening....to not ignore your immediate reality yet find peace and happiness in the unity of the soul with its power.....and as far as other kinds of music in comparison is concerned...everything has its own place...and i guess its time now....alternative4783https://www.blogger.com/profile/04080533046755533723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1362584331118859609.post-59052226006627016962012-04-16T22:21:17.695-07:002012-04-16T22:21:17.695-07:00Actually this review is pretty astute. Beneath all...Actually this review is pretty astute. Beneath all of Anathema's bombast and new-age spiritual nonsense beats a shallow and quite deceitful heart.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1362584331118859609.post-40361432497657714572012-04-13T15:43:02.836-07:002012-04-13T15:43:02.836-07:00@Vic : does that mean that the method you suggest ...@Vic : does that mean that the method you suggest works for you? <br /><br />It was expectable that I will get my ass kicked around a bit for this review, courtesy of rabid Anathema fans. I am definitely not against this kind of music, - as I am not against any kind at all - I just think that this release is not the evolution of the genre, but the blaming and exploitation and the stagnation of it. If you, Vic, have amazing fun listening to this LP, then congratulate yourself, your taste has been served.<br /><br />As for me, I'd pick the Cynic Portal Tapes LP anytime anyplace instead of this. <br /><br />For all other Anathema fans, bring the flame if you must, but ask yourself before you treat me if everything I say about the album is unjust.GyZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00377347348312331089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1362584331118859609.post-37270955388252860802012-04-13T14:35:59.951-07:002012-04-13T14:35:59.951-07:00If you were drunk, would have been better. Now mak...If you were drunk, would have been better. Now makes you look like a complete sober idiot... no excuse for that, blame it on your parents.Vichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08070151232418936458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1362584331118859609.post-13634161426935439842012-04-13T13:47:20.469-07:002012-04-13T13:47:20.469-07:00Then you should definitely visit these pages more ...Then you should definitely visit these pages more often. Or not at all. The choice is yours, and I accept each. Thank you for your comment.<br /><br />P. S. : I'm sober as a crowbar.GyZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00377347348312331089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1362584331118859609.post-27096302247362064592012-04-13T13:42:21.040-07:002012-04-13T13:42:21.040-07:00"Lion King Walt Disney rock music"??? I ..."Lion King Walt Disney rock music"??? I wonder what kind of drugs you took to write such a ridiculous review like that, I never read so much shit like in this review...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com